"It's about finding that first set of audiences that really deeply cares about what you're doing," he says. "From there, you really have to thnk about what t of audiences after that is." With uber and tesla, the company started with a high margin business before making its way down stream. 'You start at the high margin business, and then you make your way down stream'
In a short news segment, Jason describes Apple's new iCloud+ privacy suite (2:18). Then, Framework founder Nirav Patel joins to talk about making laptop customization great again (13:04)! They discuss the difficulty of raising VC for a consumer hardware startup, creating products for the "modding" audience, the environmental benefit of fixing products and more(24:16)!