Natalie Goldberg is an author and also a Zen teacher. She has a really strong accent, like a deep, strong, powerful voice. And then what she says when she talks is like just absolute ruthless authenticity. There's just something so grounded about it. I will listen to her talk about anything because she'll tell you the color of the carpet,. But because she'd tell it to you because it means something. It's like the opposite of abstractions. Everything that comes out of her teaching and her writing, I just feel like it reminds me of common humanity.

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