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How to Be Present for the First Time

Sally Kohn: I started taking classes at the UCLA school where in a center and I took classes there for three years, and I remember that same feeling. She says it's so easy for that automatic program in your mind to put you back into trance. How do you come back out and be present again? "I just the more you look the more you see the more you know the more you notice," she says.

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