
Confronting a former CIA Spy: ‘Are You Lying About Leaving the CIA?! | Andrew Bustamante
Desirable
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What can we learn from CIA spies about love and relationships?
Former CIA intelligence officer Andrew Bustamante reveals how the same psychological tactics used in espionage can build—or destroy—trust, intimacy, and even family life.
Once a covert CIA operative, Andrew still speaks like a man who may never have fully left the agency… leaving viewers wondering how deep the secrets go.
In this fascinating episode of Desirable, Andrew breaks down how spycraft shapes everything from marriage to parenting—and even how public figures like Charlie Kirk prove we’re all being subtly controlled by information, narrative, and emotional manipulation.
He shares:
✅ How he proposed to his CIA-agent wife through a covert six-month operation
✅ The emotional cost of loving someone trained never to trust
✅ Why he parents like a spy—teaching his kids with “the illusion of choice”
✅ How the CIA recruits through trauma, loyalty & validation needs
✅ Why intelligence isn’t fact—it’s probability—and how that controls public thinking
✅ The truth about conspiracies, propaganda & mass persuasion
✅ The two spy tools that can strengthen any relationship: perspective-shifting & curiosity
✅ What real emotional security looks like when you’ve been trained to lie for a living
This is a rare look inside both the human and psychological side of espionage—and what it can teach us about love, control, and raising the next generation.
Chapters:
00:00 Intro
01:51 The Proposal Story
14:29 Challenges of Marriage and Parenthood
24:04 Understanding Human Behavior
26:12 The Three Lives Concept
32:45 Parenting with CIA Insights
34:06 Non-Traditional Parenting Choices
35:25 The Illusion of Choice
35:41 Deciding to Homeschool
36:20 Challenges with Traditional Schooling
38:52 CIA Training and Breaking the System
43:57 The Impact of Father Figures
48:15 CIA Recruitment and Loyalty
01:00:29 The Culture of Silent Professionals
01:09:52 Personal Safety and Family Concerns
01:10:09 Navigating Public Exposure and Security Measures
01:13:25 The Reality of Intelligence Work
01:15:27 The Anatomy of a Conspiracy
01:18:12 Cultural Observations and Political Divisions
01:36:19 CIA Tools for Relationship Building
01:41:39 Concluding Thoughts on Relationships and Personal Growth
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