In this chapter, they discuss the story of a woman and her daughter who were accused of witchcraft in a small town. They then transition to talking about the guest's background, growing up in Green Bay, Wisconsin, as a Jewish child in a predominantly non-Jewish community. They also touch on the contrasting political views of the guest's parents, one being a conscientious objector and the other a surfer.
Jessica Nordell—science and cultural journalist—explores ways of changing pernicious thought patterns to eliminate unconscious bias for a more just world.