Anatol Levin: Western leaders should say that we've already won a great victory in Ukraine. He says the vast majority of Ukraine will now be fully independent and pro-Western. That crushes Putin's hopes, but it also reverses everything that's happened to Ukraine since mid-17th century," he adds. "That idea that talk of total victory of reconquering Crimea could actually be the most dangerous"
What the governments and media are saying in public is quite different to what they may be saying in private. Anatol Lieven, former war correspondent joins us to discuss the question of Crimea and how different the discussions in private are compared to what we hear in the public eye.
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