So I feel like I'm getting maybe a little too Huberman-esque here and using all these terms, but if you do intense exercise, and Annie defines that as basically 80% of your max heart rate, you're going to have very labored breathing. You can induce something called transient hypofrontality. What that basically means is that for a limited period of time, you're shutting down your prefrontal cortex, which does a lot of your executive function. And so you're basically turning off the part of your brain that is often acts as a manager or a coordinator or a conductor. It's almost like shaking up a snow globe. And what that does is it allows your brain to come up with new and novel and more creative connections. Annie actually cites the work of Haruki Murakami, who is a famous Japanese novelist, but he also runs six miles every day and wrote a book called What I Talk About When I Talk About Running. And in there, he talks about people always ask him, what do you think about when you run? And he makes the point that oftentimes he runs that he doesn't have to think. He says, quote, I run in order to acquire a void. And Annie says this void is transient hypofrontality. You're basically running so that you can stop thinking because thinking hasn't led you to a solution. I've heard mathematicians refer to this as you have to let the unwatched pot boil. So you do the work and then you walk away. You let the pot boil while you're away from the kitchen and you hope that that time away will actually give you some new creative insight that will give you the answer to the thing you can't crack. Annie makes the point in this book that some scientists speculate that transient hyperfrontality is the same thing that happens when you're dreaming or when you use drugs. It's this idea that you can create different neural connections than you would otherwise. But you don't have to go to sleep or use drugs. If you use intense exercise, you just have to have a willingness to go see God as Steve describes it. But the point here is you can use your body to change how you think. If you're stuck on a problem, do some moderate exercise. It might help. If that doesn't help, do some intense exercise, which will help you turn off your brain and then might leave you with an insight or a creative connection you didn't have before after the workout. So those are two specific ideas from Annie's book. But I think the larger idea of expanding what we think of as thought might be helpful. We can think with our sensations and with information in our body, and we can also think with physical movement as well. So thinking doesn't just happen between the ears. It actually happens in contact with environment and our context as well. And we will learn more about that next week when we talk about how you can use physical space to change your way of thinking. If this is interesting to you, this is the type of thing that we get to go deep on in the Academy. Again, this is the book we're reading this month in our book club, Shelf Help. so if you're interested in ideas like this or any of the other ideas we talk about and you want to engage with them in a deeper more communal context you might want to check out the academy we as always will put a link in the show notes and we'll be back next week with another episode of the coach up related to this book the extended mind by annie murphy paul please check it out and of course we'll have another episode later this week so stay tuned and until then as always farewell