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#231: How to Relationship Better with John Kim & Vanessa Bennett

The Mark Groves Podcast

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I Burn Your Mouth

i think when people have put other people on pedestals to hear their human, relatable experiences, i think that's what's really changed in sort of the therapeutic coaching world. It like, we're humans and flawed just like everybody else. So part of the memoir aspect was important to us because we wanted to see, we wanted to show people that all these things that we talk about in the book are things that we struggle with in our relationship, right? We should talk about it and go deeper.

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