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#601: Jack Kornfield — How to Overcome Apathy and Find Beautiful Purpose

The Tim Ferriss Show

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Combat Bets and the Tragedy of Dralma

"We're kind of also in the territory of tralma, which you and i have talked about before," he says. "And again, it becomes kind of a training that you do, where you are acknowledging what's true." The retreats were with returning vets from the middle east who have a tremendous amount of dralma. They couldn't go home and tell people the graphic details of what happened in the battle zone,. It would shatter them. So we got combatbets together, and part of it was to write or talk or tell your story.

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Jack Kornfield (@JackKornfield) trained as a Buddhist monk in the monasteries of Thailand, India, and Burma. He has taught meditation internationally since 1974 and is one of the key teachers to introduce Buddhist mindfulness practice to the West. Jack co-founded the Insight Meditation Society in Barre, Massachusetts, with fellow meditation teachers Sharon Salzberg and Joseph Goldstein and the Spirit Rock Center in Woodacre, California. Over the years, Jack has taught worldwide, led international Buddhist teacher meetings, and worked with many of the great teachers of our time. He holds a PhD in clinical psychology and is a grandfather, husband, and activist. Some of his current projects include MMTCP, a worldwide mindfulness teacher training; Cloud Sangha, a site offering access to expert mindfulness teachers online; and a positive impact Wisdom Ventures fund.

His books have been translated into 22 languages and have sold more than 1.5 million copies. They include The Wise Heart: A Guide to the Universal Teachings of Buddhist Psychology; A Path with Heart; After the Ecstasy, the Laundry; Teachings of the Buddha; The Art of Forgiveness, Lovingkindness, and Peace; Bringing Home the Dharma: Awakening Right Where You Are; and his most recent book, No Time Like the Present: Finding Freedom, Love, and Joy Right Where You Are.

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[1:15:06] Out-of-body experiences

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