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The Art and Science of Building Healthy Relationships | Drs. John and Julie Gottman

Finding Mastery with Dr. Michael Gervais

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How to Change the Course of a Conversation

Julian Zelizer: What you're about to say is, is going to be gold. And so if you explain this for folks, maybe silver, not quite exactly. Okay. So here are the, here are the steps that I took during that conversation to change the course of where it was going. First of all, when you spoke your first criticism of me, you're too needy,. You know, basically,  I turned it into, I'm feeling defensive. That's, that's a goal part of it. Then, let's see, then I think you started getting frustrated and a little bit angry. And what I did then, I realized, wow, this

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