Back then, the word inflammation did not exist. It was just up to over a step broken ankle or something. And so if we're going to reduce pain, and Dr. Stevenson helped me understand this, he was a cardiologist. He said, you know, if you're going to research pain, you've got to look at this inflammation because you can't have it withoutinflammation. So I started looking at that - grounding somebody, because these reactive species, they're electrically charged. They're going to create this oxidative burst. This is very crude and oxidizes, it burns things apart with acid. But when I'm putting their hand on the body, what I'm

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