There's also moderns underneath the modern Stoicism banner Stoicon Women Can you talk about that one? So as we were discussing a little bit earlier Stoicism can seem a little bit off-putting to women So we wanted to just kind of amplify women's voices This event we've had it two years now And it's been very successful very well received. It is around the same time as the regular Stoicon so October I believe it's going to take place at the same time this year Still early in the yearSo don't have exact information But my colleague Katherine Coramilis is heading that Follow modern Stoicism on social media and you'll get that information Okay great and maybe