This episode is from All Things Go, a podcast about the board game Go, also known as Baduk in Korea and Weiqi in China.

Philosopher C. Thi Nguyen explains his view of games as the art of agency and distinguishes achievement play from striving play, where the value lies in taking on temporary goals and enjoying the struggle. The conversation uses Go to examine handicaps, rank fixation, casual versus serious play, and why an interesting loss may be more rewarding than a dull win. TelegraphGo introduces Pixel Go, Nathan Harwit discusses learning plateaus, and Gazza White compares cheating concerns in chess and Go.

Full transcript, related episodes, and additional resources:

https://allthingsgogame.com/2026/07/28/c-thi-nguyen-interview-telegraphgo-pixel-go-learning-themes-cheating-in-chess-vs-go-with-g/

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C. Thi Nguyen Interview

C. Thi Nguyen’s website
The main subject of our conversation, Nguyen’s book Games: Agency as Art
The excellent interview Thi did on The Ezra Klein Show; highly recommended
Thi’s game recommendations: El Grande, Tigris & Euphrates, & Root

Gazza - Cheating in Chess vs Go

Chinese pro Go player Qin Siyue was banned for 8 years - link

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