Pain as a Path to Growth Versus Ease

Will frames pain as growth; Rich differentiates invited and unexpected pain, values pain as teacher but questions suffering as default creative fuel.

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This week on the WHOOP Podcast, WHOOP Founder & CEO Will Ahmed sits down with ultra endurance athlete, best-selling author, and renowned podcast host, Rich Roll, who opens up about the path that led him to become one of the most influential voices in health and wellness today. From addiction struggles and to the practices of meditation and non-dualism, Rich shares his wisdom on living with purpose.

Rich and Will explore Rich’s approaches to interviewing, the motivation for growth, and ways to find opportunities for transformation. Rich dives into the deeper questions—what fulfillment, happiness, and balance really mean, and how we can all take an honest inventory of our lives to prioritize what matters most?

The episode looks ahead at the future of innovation, with Will and Rich offering their thoughts on the future of technology in health and wellness. Rich combines the importance of staying grounded, while leveraging the incredible tools technology has to offer.

(00:42) Rich Roll on Interviewing and Inspiration Behind His Podcast

(07:02) Rich’s Background And Drive For His Career

(08:29) Addiction Recovery and Lessons from 12-Step

(12:25) Rich's Guide to Meditation: Active Meditation, Non-dualism, and Perception

(23:28) Consciousness in Meditation: Aligning With Your True Self

(31:12) Living In Extremes: Knowing Where To Grow

(35:12) The Growth Curve: What Motivates Growth?

(39:14) Interpreting and Defining Fulfilment, Happiness, and Purpose

(44:31) What is Balance?: Taking Inventory of Your Life and Prioritization

(52:21) The Future of Technology in Health and Wellness

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