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Are You a Marketer?
Nathan: We talk a lot about being a creator from the perspective of like as an independent creator, but it's amazing for finding a job. Like Charlie Prangley, who is our creative director at ConvertKit, I watched her give a talk at a conference and was like, dang, she's good. And later I find out that she's a designer at like a startup in London. Nathan: She's just like instant hire because you know everything about her. Brian: If someone has the discipline to create on YouTube or Twitter, and do that consistently for multiple years, like they've already proven most of what you need to know about their ability to show up and do