When we think about the ark of humanity in terms of innovation, it's somebody who thought they were right and they were good to go. And then there's apple in the 19 eighties, and steve joss comes along. It's a sorry ideam. We know that we want have conversations and not just dismiss people for being wrong, period. But here's the thing, even if we knew for a hundred %, blessed, i know for sure that i am right about something, and jim is wrong about something,. So why should we engage? There's two things tt are wrong with that. One is that that person actually might be right. The other is