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28: Plato's Symposium, part 2: The Loveable Socrates

The Nietzsche Podcast

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Alcibiades's Relationship With Socrates

Alcibiades, compared to socrates, is a complete apostate. He is the young man entirely alienated from philosophy. Socrates's influence on such a person, on, as it were, such a brilliant person, is the most wonderful effect that plato could have given in this dialogue. Both express their deepest feelings through the mouth of a divinely inspired prophetess and under the inspiration of wine. Their deepest feelings which are the same are for the beautiful itself, one through the idea, the other pointing toward actuality. The one is as ethically sublime as the other is ethically fallen. It is clear that these points apply as much to the philosophy as to the artistic form

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