Sasan: "I was terrible. I could keep up for the first minute or so then I fell behind" Pico asks Sasan how long would it take him to listen the way Sassan does to learn how to flow? If someone doesn't listen we assume they don't want to listen. But maybe at least some of the time the person who doesn't listen acts that way because they don't know how to listen. They haven't practiced. Everything is a skill like playing the piano or learning to cook.