The New York Times wrote about you, they sort of somewhat sensationally said that reasoning is evolved to win arguments. Could you unpack that idea? Yeah, I know, yeah, I'd be happy to. So it's really these two things that don't make sense, when we say that the other issue, you can't just be evaluating arguments if no one is producing them. And as I was saying earlier, if you're just producing arguments and no one is evaluating them, doesn't make any sense either.