Is There a Justification for Punishment?

A. But even if you did, that doesn't entail that we need to bring back free will and basic desert am. And i think one thing is being confused here is that when wee got off on te discussion of punishment, is that we failed to distinguish between all the different types of justifications for punishment. A. Mixed accounts might retain some and and therefore we have to get into the weeds. Dan agrees that compatibles control is not enough to preserve basic desert. And i see that as a victory. I'm very clear about what my desert is and what it means. So there's absolutely no reason to have to be compatiblist to defend what dan wants in this debate.