Welcome back to the Evolve Move Play podcast! In this episode, I sit down with my friend and fellow movement coach, Jason C. Brown. Jason, an old-school kettlebell and functional fitness expert, shares his wealth of knowledge and experience in the world of physical play and movement. We dive into a wide range of topics, from the perils of social media for coaches to the disappearance of free play among children. Jason and I discuss strategies for reintroducing play and risk-taking into our lives and the lives of our students. We also explore the concept of embodied faith and how physical wrestling can help us cultivate it. Throughout the conversation, we touch on the importance of roughhousing, the orthopedic cost of different practices as we age, and the value of learning from practitioners who actively engage in the physical practices they teach and have skin in the game. Join us for a thought-provoking discussion that will challenge the way you think about movement, play, and personal growth. EMP | Visit Us Online - EMP Website: www.evolvemoveplay.com - EMP Substack: evolvemoveplay.substack.com - IG: @RafeKelly - www.instagram.com/rafekelley/ - FB: @RafeKelleyMovement - www.facebook.com/RafeKelleyMovement - Twitter: @rafekelley - twitter.com/rafekelley - YT Subscribe: www.youtube.com/user/Faelcind?sub_confirmation=1 - Become a Patron: www.patreon.com/rafekelley JASON C. BROWN -IG: @ironkimono - https://www.instagram.com/ironkimono -YT: @KettlebellAthletics - https://www.youtube.com/@KettlebellAthletics -Web: https://www.jasoncbrown.art/ 00:00:00 - Introduction and catching up 00:02:37 - Social media's toll on coaches 00:13:35 - Perils of the attention economy 00:22:27 - Rediscovering non-professional joys 00:30:40 - The disappearance of free play 00:37:26 - Reintroducing play and risk-taking 00:48:56 - Aging and the orthopedic cost of practice 00:57:04 - The importance of roughhousing and body-to-body play 01:13:31 - Cultivating embodied faith through physical wrestling 01:24:54 - Learning from practitioners with skin in the game