Is That Relative to Regular Life?

The research looking through this is at times difficult to comprehend, right? That's not the right word. But we have all sorts of different research that's occurring here. And as Dr. Euchinger points out, if we have an isoc caloric study where there is controlled feeding, then we don't see things like increases in body weight or changes in body composition. A lot of people are not putting everything they eat on their plate. They're not weighing. The evidence is pretty strong and I'm decidedly in the middle of this conversation.