I think it's really brave to be able to say I'm going to do it differently. And it takes huge bravery to do it when all of your neighbors are going, that looks a mess. It feels to me like one of the keys to chemical farming - let's call it because I kind of show away from conventional farming. Whereas it's only been the last 60 of 70 years that we've actually followed as chemicals. So I like to say chemical farming, but it all industrial fire, whatever. But anyway, what they really did is they separated out and did this kind of mono farming that you talked about. They separated that kind of natural cycle. And I think what I'm

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