Ed's Response and Good-Faith Debate

Is “Systems Thinking is dead” the new “Agile is dead”? In this episode, we do a summary episode on what became a 4 episode series stemming from a disparaging article about systems thinking by Ed Braden. We react to the article, get Ed’s response and then - using a little help from Google Ai - offer successful examples of implementing systems in large government projects. Links: - Bradon's article: worksinprogress.co/issue/magical-systems-thinking/ - Bradon's self-responses on X: x.com/EdBradon/status/1966470317288616342 - Ed's reply on Twitter: x.com/EdBradon/status/1971266284990976361 - Gall's Law: www.driverlesscrocodile.com/processes-w…-galls-law/ Shape Up episodes: Ryan Singer on Basecamp and Shape Up, Part I https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/ryan-singer-on-basecamp-and-shape-up-part-i Ryan Singer on Basecamp and Shape Up, Part II https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/ryan-singer-on-basecamp-and-shape-up-part-ii Ryan Singer on Basecamp and Shape Up, Part II https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/ryan-singer-on-basecamp-and-shape-up-part-iii Full episodes on this topic: Someone is wrong on the internet about systems thinking! https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/someone-is-wrong-on-the-internet-about-systems-thinking Systems Thinking rant redux, Part I https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/systems-thinking-rant-redux-part-i Systems Thinking rant redux, Part II https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/systems-thinking-rant-redux-part-ii Systems Thinking rant redux, Part III https://soundcloud.com/troubleshootingagile/systems-thinking-rant-redux-part-iii -------------------------------------------------- You'll find free videos and practice material, plus our book Agile Conversations, at agileconversations.com And we'd love to hear any thoughts, ideas, or feedback you have about the show: email us at info@agileconversations.com -------------------------------------------------- About Your Hosts Douglas Squirrel and Jeffrey Fredrick joined forces at TIM Group in 2013, where they studied and practised the art of management through difficult conversations. Over a decade later, they remain united in their passion for growing profitable organisations through better communication. Squirrel is an advisor, author, keynote speaker, coach, and consultant, and he's helped over 300 companies of all sizes make huge, profitable improvements in their culture, skills, and processes. You can find out more about his work here: douglassquirrel.com/index.html Jeffrey is Vice President of Engineering at ION Analytics, Organiser at CITCON, the Continuous Integration and Testing Conference, and is an accomplished author and speaker. You can connect with him here: www.linkedin.com/in/jfredrick/