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Lou Rosenfeld: Rich Mirrenoff has been doing product management since the 80s. He says he started out as a strategy manager at Tandem Computers in Cupertino, California. Now his job is to get people from all parts of an organization to work together on products and services. "I feel like it's my obligation to argue the other side of that question for the first five minutes," said Mirrenoff.

Lou has Rich Mironov, CEO of Mironov Consulting, as his guest. Rich runs a blog and has been writing for over 20 years about business and the psychology that goes into product management. Together, they discuss ways that Product Management and UX can work more fluidly together. They dive into how you can bring your team together so everyone is working on the same page. Rich brings some nuggets of advice he has collected over his many years in the industry and touches on the talk he will be giving at Rosenfeld Media’s Design in Product Conference. https://rosenfeldmedia.com/events/futures/