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Koshin Paley Ellison: Untangled (#155)

The Wisdom Podcast

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The Wheel of Suffering

It's very interesting that we have this natural aversion to suffering. But at the same time these giants sort of draw you into their world so that you become almost an expression of their energy. And I also think that we're not aware of what feels good. We substitute our understanding of what pleasure is in what's familiar or like the little crumb that we get of pleasure. So how do we really get curious about what actual pleasure is?

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