I love that story, that it was sort of a a game that led to it as too. So let's squitch, switch gars a little bit and talk about sort of your advice for young people who are thinking about getting into the computer industry. E, sort of, you know, brat degree, computer science degree, what set of life experiences like? What's his general advice for people who want to join a tut company? Ye, i think it needs to be a mix. I think if you're going to be a programmer, a, y, go right programmes. The only way to get better at things is to do them.