If the second meeting wasn't scheduled, I would never write the proposal. So that was definitely a kill criteria for me. It got so bad or good to find out how you look at it toward the end of my Carnegie career. If someone's saying they already have a competitor installed and they only want to talk to me about price, but I know I can win the deal, leadership is saying, no, that's bad. You've just satisfied two kill criteria. You need to qualify them out. And not pursue.

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