We were trying to build everything. And Google was seemed. They said all the right things, and we're like, OK, great. But then over time, after the first six months, it became like the tindler swindler. I was just like, what happened? We did all this great stuff. You said we were going to have go. It just went out the window. Over time, we were just one toy in the toy box. When you think you're bought for $3.2 billion and people would actually respect that and go, that's a lot of money. That's not how it worked. At Apple, it's a whole different story.

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