"I have not stayed in a hostel on at least a handful of years. I found that incredibly boring sitting in a hotel room by myself," he says. "One purpose of travel is to force yourself into the kind of attention that human experience sometimes don't call for" We're all, we've all defaulted back to our phone, and it can be hard to break the ice with people who are glued to their phones as much as you might think they are.

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