I wanted people when they put their headphones on and press play they were like, okay here it comes. That means no intro music that means no advertisements rolling in. Here we go rock and roll so that's what we started doing on podcast number two. I'm gonna talk, you know, you're gonna sort of listen to me sometimes So you did have a vision for the podcast because the Podcast number one I had a vision too. My vision was basically what the podcast is right now. And actually, as you know me and my kind of leadership principles at this time I wasn't 100% sure that I was right.

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