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011: Persistence In The Face of Failure with Lori Harder

Midlife Conversations with Natalie Jill

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Setting Yourself at Ease

A lot of how we start our speaking is about setting us at ease. If you're worried about something, take away the worry. The second you say the weirdest thing happens, it's almost like it lifts. "I'm way better now that I've kind of learned to just say what it is," she says.

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