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Is the Earth a Living Entity?
Cameron: The earth is not just those systems, but rather all those systems working together in this kind of complex and emergent property that makes the earth a kind of a living entity. And it's a really compelling thesis in some ways, but you know a lot of people are also controversial in some ways to write because it naturalizes certain things about how we interact with the world at anthropomorphizing part of the world. But anyway, so you know complicated in all kinds of ways, but that's where she turns she turns to Lin Margulis and kind of symbiosis theory and symbiotic convergence and emergence out of that.