I like to end these podcasts with a challenge for people and take the information we've discussed in some sense. I ask the guest to help somebody take an action step from this episode if they've made this far. Does a challenge come to mind? Well I guess we've talked about the phone stuff right so can you just try even just turning off your phone for an hour as a challenge or put it on airplane mode at dinner because studies show that having your phone in rough proximity reduces IQ and increases anxiety. What you'll find might surprise you or it might be what you've already known the entire time. Thank you so much Jack for spending the time here today.

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