Nick Thompson is CEO of The Atlantic, an elite marathoner, and author of the memoir The Running Ground.

This conversation explores how running reveals our deepest inherited patterns. We discuss Nick's journey from getting fired from CBS in under an hour to running The Atlantic, reconciling with his brilliant father's tragic collapse, setting age-group records at 50, and why AI threatens the very nature of reality.

We also discuss why the simple act of running becomes a portal for understanding your deepest patterns.

Nick offers profound lessons in post-traumatic growth. And he shares them generously. Enjoy!

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