I feel called out. I'm looking at my fresh pedicure right now. But you're so right. I definitely know I tend to spend more when I'm feeling, I guess, emotionally unstable. It's like when I'm feeling like I'm not secure in my, in anything, it could be, I'm in a new role in life or I'm not feeling as confident about work and it's so counterintuitive because you'd think that I would spend more when I felt really good about it. It tends to be quite the opposite. Yeah.

So people react different ways. Some people when they feel insecure, they make more money. They gamble money. They save more money. They stay indifferent to money. So we have a different way of reacting to the same money, worries and fears. That's why I'm so fascinated. We have different personalities and that's what makes us so interesting.

Talked about the illusion of money, but you also teach about the myth of scarcity. Can you go into detail about that? Because I'm sure there are people living out there that are like, talk about the myth of scarcity, but I actually don't have food in my fridge. So why is it a

myth? Because we think that we don't have enough. So that's why we struggle. That's why we worry. That's we have to save. But when in fact, if you're connected to a community, if you're connected to your friends and family members, you don't have to worry about it. I feel sorry for Western culture people because they're so separated from one another. Like Mani Tabus, I just came back from the World War. So I really enjoy talking with say Finnish people and Swedish and German, English and American and Australian and Chinese. You know, they have different rules and North American people have such a funny taboos around money. Like for example, I'm a little off the side track, but this could be interesting. You know, if you're college buddies or like if you're close friends, like say 10 people or at the college party, you don't usually ask people how much you make a year or how much you have. It's like a special table in North America. So when your classmate asks you, hey, Melissa, how much are you making? You know, like how much did you make last year? That could be a very rude question, right? And that could really just put people off. And that could be very embarrassing questions. So Mani is so much taboo in North America. I hear you don't talk about between brothers and sisters. Like in Japan and China and probably other countries, we can't really talk about how much money we make. And we said, wow, congratulations. You know, in a high school reunion, we often talk about how much, wow, Melissa, you're doing great. I'm so happy for you. So that doesn't really happen in North American culture. And I'm not just saying that's right, right or wrong. You could, you know, make them faint when you just directly ask you how much money. But the funny thing is the same taboo is in Japan about sexual issues. We don't talk about sexual issues as open as North American culture. So if Japanese businessmen are trying to fain you with, you know, how much money you make, you can ask him, how is your sexual life? And then he's going to fame. So it's the same cultural thing. But going back to where we started. So we are believing that bank account is the only security. But I think even in North America, look at Latin people, you know, they are connected. If they have no money, their relatives, uncles or, you know, knees are going to help you. So once you know that you don't have anything in your fridge, there could be a lot of food in your neighbors. So it's almost like you're having a joint account with other people. But if you're separated, if you don't talk about money with your brother and sister, and if you can ask your brother casually, you know, how are you doing? And Melissa, can you send me like $5,000? I'm a little short, you know, you don't probably don't do that as much. So other culture, they do that. You know, it's all as if like, hey, Melissa, I don't have salt. Can you bring it over

next time? You know. Do you hear

that?