Ella Mills of Deliciously Ella is a champion of plant-based living, an award-winning author, and an adept businesswoman.

Here, Ella also opens up about her lows and feeling vulnerable at times - not least where it all began with a debilitating condition that started her quest for change.

In this episode, Ella talks to Helen about:

• Loss
• Regret
• Chronic illness
• Depression
• Trolling and online abuse
• Feelings of rejection and how we gravitate towards negative feedback
• Having a high profile and the challenges that come with it
• Allowing ourselves to be vulnerable
• The importance of ‘acceptance’
• And how ‘everything passes...even when it feels insurmountable’

Trigger: depression

Find out more about Deliciously Ella https://deliciouslyella.com/ and follow Ella on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook @DeliciouslyElla

Follow Helen on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook @MsHelenRussell

Read more about Helen’s new book, How To Be Sad at Waterstones  or Amazon 

Get in touch with the show at howtobesadpodcast@gmail.com

Thanks to Joel Grove for production and to Matt Clacher at HarperCollins for making this podcast happen.