Former FBI Special Agent Jim Gaylord joins Matt to discuss
Chasing Chi, his inside account of the multi-year hunt for Chi Mak, the low-key Southern California engineer at the center of a major Chinese spy ring inside America’s Navy industrial base. They walk through how a vague tip evolved into a full counterintelligence operation—trash pulls, covert entries, FISA surveillance, and a race to grab the Chi’s conspirators at LAX before stolen submarine and radar secrets left the country—and what the case reveals about China’s modern espionage threat.
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Learn more about Jim and the Chi Mak case:
chasingchibook.com
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Chasing Chi:
https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Chasing-Chi/James-E-Gaylord/9781493091966
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