
17. From Outputs to Outcomes with Neil Pleasants
Beyond UX Design
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The Best Non-Design Podcast
Des Island Discs is a 45-minute interview with famous people. They have to punctuate it with eight tracks that mean something to them. At the end, they have to choose a luxury item and a book to take with them. I'll definitely take the Grace Coddington book. But if you get a chance to listen to this, it's really awesome.
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