i disagree with john on just some facts. Weapons are pouring into ucrane right now from a whole variety of european countries, including this one. But yes, i mean, puten's decision making in this case shows why you shouldn't have an autocracy and why that's not good for a society tobe run by one person with no checks and balances. I think the russians had o idea that ukraine has actually become, at least with its elites, quite a liberal society. You get lot of collaborators that would run a proputin u crane. And i you know, it shows what happens if you're cut off from basic information and a,
Following the fall of communism in 1989, American political scientist Francis Fukuyama shot to fame with his thesis about the ‘end of history’ – the idea that the entire world was set on a path towards universal liberalism. But 30 years on, liberalism is under attack from both the Right and the Left – and from Vladimir Putin’s Russia. Professor Fukuyama was joined in conversation by John Gray, the British political philosopher, who rejects the idea of a universal momentum towards liberal values and human progress. Despite the view of many that the Russian invasion of Ukraine marks the end of the post-Cold War era, Fukuyama believes that it is a wake-up call for the West to rekindle the spirit of 1989, while Gray holds that the idea that liberalism will ever triumph is a mirage. Chairing the discussion is the journalist, author and broadcaster, Helen Lewis.
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