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The hope in podcasting for several years has been, we want to make it more like webadver sing. We can target this stuff to you automatically, ah, in maybe even a creepy way. In over in webb advertising, pushed primarily by by apple u and some other players, there's a move away from that. Do people in the podcasting business recognize the dissodance between what they want to do and where the general digit lad market is? You know, i think they must.