The Importance of Influence in Conferences

It tripled conversions. It sounds amazing that you're making something more difficult than a jimball because you're forcing them to understand something. Well, um, thank you very much for talking to us. Okay. So that was the end of that interview? Oh, was it? Or was it? We actually kept talking to Bart for quite a while. We'll never caught up an hour. And that won't be part of the conversion jam show, but we'll be sure to put it out in a couple of weeks. Yeah. There's one funny, there's a couple of funny tweets. You can hear about it later.