I have seen some communities on line where the sea jams are very popular, that some of the rhetoric is about flatter the better. I think that's really sensible, when it kind of speaks to where i was going earlier, about the peaks. And you wouldn't know that unless you're actually measuring them, like you've just explained. So i think that's great. Tim there's so much more i want to talk about, i'm just conscious of your time and annul schedule to day. I want to get you back on and talk about darry. Wnt to talk about snacking, meal timing as there's a lot more delve into,. but i know that you

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