The Utility of the Phone

"I try to break it down into like, what is this device actually doing for me that I can't get anywhere else? Or this is the ideal form of getting this thing," he says. "Phone calls, communication, even maybe text messages, I think podcasts, I think they're perfect podcast delivery systems." He adds: "And so those are maybe those are like three in there. That was genuinely like genuinely useful".

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