I love that culture on your team where you've, you've brought people in and you have the kind of folks that are willing to say that to you. And I thought it was really interesting too that in some cases they were driving kind of your next steps of you were really listening. It's a shift I think like so many leaders need to make, especially an entrepreneur,. But it's really different than being the operational person that you were used to being, isn't it? Gemma: "It is a really important shift though"

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