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011: Persistence In The Face of Failure with Lori Harder

Midlife Conversations with Natalie Jill

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How to Get Bigger Than the Problems

"When everything is stripped away, it gets really clear on the things that are important and that, you know, we had either worked before or hadn't worked before," she says. "No matter what happens, we don't back down, we get bigger than the problem." She adds: "You can't ask why did this happen? What now?" That's not a good question. You have to say something like, how do I getbigger than the problem? 'That's what we did every single day in our walks'

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