"I'm trying to help this person. What's the way to do it? Make them a partner," she says. "You would think that would be again, you think things seem so obvious like to be like, I have to, my frame has to be, you have to go into my frame." She asks why people don't just ask their friends what they want and then follow through with it. 'We are all stuck inside our own head and our own story,' he adds.

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