Intro

The election is right around the corner and politicians are hitting the campaign trail – but what are they really up to? Guardian Australia’s new podcast Back to Back Barries will examine the strategies behind the campaigns in the 2025 federal election with co-hosts Barrie Cassidy and Tony Barry. Barrie Cassidy has covered 14 federal elections as a political journalist, and two from the inside as a senior press secretary to then prime minister Bob Hawke. He is also the former host of ABC TV’s political discussion program Insiders. Tony Barry is a former Liberal party strategist who has worked for Christopher Pyne and Malcolm Turnbull. He now runs political research company RedBridge Group and is also a regular media commentator. Back to Back Barries will be with you every Saturday as the election fast approaches. This week they discuss whether a minority government will be good or bad for the country.