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The Joy of Interviewing
I think the joy is not just like, acing the interview, but like we made this really great connection with this woman and her. I love Louis Theroux, who does these interesting documentaries where he's done all kinds of documentary shows about 20 years. But one of his amazing, his superpower is to not pick up on the cues that somebody is irked or doesn't want to answer the question. He just never lets on. And you kind of cringe when you're watching because he's not, he's never a jerk, but he just doesn't, he's sort of happily persistent and he makes connections with people.