In studies where they do protein restriction, an inevitable outcome of that is simultaneously there is calorie restriction. And it's important to understand that your control is abnormal. Your control is an obesity model because they're over eating. Rodents are very good animal models for human metabolism if they're meal fed. But if you don't meal feed them, then you don't have the same model. So calories are the issue. You've got to be 100%. We know that obesity shortens longevity. No question about that. The people who want to make the anti-protein argument aren't interested in the context. I was director of research for the American Egg Board for four years and we looked at

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